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 Post subject: pact ATGM
PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012 12:42 
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what pact atgm units are the best to use ?
i mean atgm vehicles ,
the pact inf atgm abviously its the PTUR KONKURS .

but what atgm vehicle are the best to use?
cuz in my point of view all of the pact atgm are suck
the UAZ konkurs have only 4 misslies , and they out of ammo very fast.
also they die very fast

the brdm malyutka is 40 points , and pretty accuracy , and for 40 points its suck
the brdm malyutka that cost 50 points maybe good accuracy and good range but its cost too much , 50 points - and if i want some effect i need atleast 3 of them , 150 points ..
and also if i want to spent 50 points i prefer the MLTB cuz i only add 5 points and much better parameters

the MLTB is the best but it cost 55 points , and its alot of poitns..

the NATO have M15A2 TOW , 10 accuracy and 14 ap power for only 30 points !
and also the JAGAR ,
they can make massive ATGM units in low money , and better parameters then pact :(


also what is the best tactic to avoid massive ATGM attack ?


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 Post subject: Re: pact ATGM
PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012 12:45 
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About the KONKUR, it's not true anymore.

They are the least available (8) of all ATGM infantry. I still take them, but I'm considering the FAGOT.

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 Post subject: Re: pact ATGM
PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012 12:46 
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The Jaguar is expensive as hell and the TOW Jeeps are about as squishy as the UAZ Konkurs. As Pact you propably want to use an ATGM tank like the T62M. For defensive purposes just stick to the PTUR Konkurs, don't even bother with the dedicated ATGM carriers.

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 Post subject: Re: pact ATGM
PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012 13:02 
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the problem is .. most of the time the ATGM miss
like if i do 4 UAZ jeeps = 16 missiles , only 2 hit.


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 Post subject: Re: pact ATGM
PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012 13:13 
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It's still ridiculous that you can get the 2 BMP-1P's for the price of 1 BRDM-2 Konkur.

The BMP-1P should cost 30-35 points, seriously :roll:
The BRDM-2 Konkur has lower AP than the VAB Mephisto and is also slower. It's also less amoured than the BMP-1P, doesn't have any substitute for its other features and therefore, it should not cost more than the BMP-1P. Missile load isn't everything....speaking of which, 2 BMP's come with 10 missles, just like 1 BRDM-2 Konkur.
As for the Malyautka-P/M - about as useless as Raketenjagspanzers. Totally should be free /jk

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the problem is .. most of the time the ATGM miss
like if i do 4 UAZ jeeps = 16 missiles , only 2 hit.

Everything in this game misses. It's something you have to account for. Bring 1-2 supply trucks with your jeeps to the battle. Problem solved.

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 Post subject: Re: pact ATGM
PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012 13:15 
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buy them with some vet and they hit nearly all the the time


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 Post subject: Re: pact ATGM
PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012 13:16 
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DiabloTigerSix wrote:
It's still ridiculous that you can get the 2 BMP-1P's for the price of 1 BRDM-2 Konkur.

The BMP-1P should cost 30-35 points, seriously :roll:
The BRDM-2 Konkur has lower AP than the VAB Mephisto and is also slower. It's also less amoured than the BMP-1P, doesn't have any substitute for its other features and therefore, it should not cost more than the BMP-1P. Missile load isn't everything....speaking of which, 2 BMP's come with 10 missles, just like 1 BRDM-2 Konkur.
As for the Malyautka-P/M - about as useless as Raketenjagspanzers. Totally should be free /jk

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the problem is .. most of the time the ATGM miss
like if i do 4 UAZ jeeps = 16 missiles , only 2 hit.

Everything in this game misses. It's something you have to account for. Bring 1-2 supply trucks with your jeeps to the battle. Problem solved.

No to the BMP 1P nerf :lol: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: pact ATGM
PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012 13:22 
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ikalugin wrote:
No to the BMP 1P nerf :lol: :mrgreen:

You're gonna have to come with a better argument than that. It renders everything around it useless. Mainly the other BMP-1 variants and Konkurs jeeps. And don't even get me started on those poor BRDM-2's. Just to think that I can have for the price of the BRDM-2 Malyutka-P, I can have a Starship with a big gun, an autocannon, a better ATGM and with nearly identical missle load as well :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: pact ATGM
PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012 13:24 
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DiabloTigerSix wrote:
ikalugin wrote:
No to the BMP 1P nerf :lol: :mrgreen:

You're gonna have to come with a better argument than that. It renders everything around it useless. Mainly the other BMP-1 variants and Konkurs jeeps. And don't even get me started on those poor BRDM-2's. Just to think that I can have for the price of the BRDM-2 Malyutka-P, I can have a Starship with a big gun, an autocannon and a better ATGM as well :roll:

Some units are bound to be useless.

This is why I suggested to rework reinforcement system to companies and platoons instead of individual vehicles.

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 Post subject: Re: pact ATGM
PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012 13:25 
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ikalugin wrote:
Some units are bound to be useless.

This is why I suggested to rework reinforcement system to companies and platoons instead of individual vehicles.

And take customization from players away? Meh. We just need more balance patches - mainly price adjustments.

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