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The central problem with the game is the victory conditions, no doubt about it. The sole objective in any game is to kill as much of the enemy as possible, that is it. There is nothing whatsoever else to it, everything else is secondary to achieving this goal. Map control merely exists to gain more points to buy more things to kill more stuff. Flanking exists to outmaneuver your opponent so you may kill more of his units than he can yours. Supply is merely to give you the fuel, munitions and slapped on armor to keep your units functioning better than your opponents.

There is no deeper strategy to the game, what exists is putting together a unit-composition that is superior to your opponents and then out-playing him. It is sad but it is true. I wish it wasn't, I really wish that this game rewarding critical thinking and strategic maneuvering, but it does not.
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So what win condition do you suggest then?

Economy is not really that important in W:EE at the moment and neither is map control. Make sectors more valuable by lowering starting money and increasing income rate and suddenly map control is important because you need that money. The other alternative is some kind of capture the flag system, but considering that economy is already tied to map control, then it seems strange not to simply tweak the economy to make sectors more important.

Patch the players instead.

Well I dislike current metagamer because its much LESS varied than before. Now its ALWAYS a TOP end MBT clash with a little screen of AA and scout to deny the AAH natural coutner to MBTs.

Smaller tanks were more different between themselves and were more interesting. ATGM units now do not have range to effectively engage tanks. AAH now have too short range to engage tanks even on the top end choppers.

I really think this game needs the bug on ATGM fixed and a slight increase on ALL atgm range ( like 5-7.5%).

Tanks do not and cannot advance wildly in the open in real life! They would be made into shreds by AAH and ATGM infantry and atgm vehicles if they rush madly. But in this game they can fire and kil the ATGM unit before the missile hits the tank!

I try every day different tactics. But I feel I am loosign my time because the one that gives me by far the best result is a simply idiotic heavy tanks full rush with a small AA defense and 2 scouts on ANY non huge map. I do nto feat ATGM defenses at all when doing that.. and this is wrong!

Maybe some real goals would improve it, like capturing a hill and hold it until reinf arrive, with a countdown starting when zone is captured to simulate the ETA for reinforcements.

Or put a frontline on the map and whoever has more points in units in opponents theritory wins the round to simulate screening and an attempt to break through. Something similar could be done with one side only defending their frontline and if opponent has units worth of x points behind enemy line after time expires they win.
I could go on and on, but really its a question of implementing ideas, not having them.

But whatever happens to the game i hope its not turning into another economy rts, those have been done to death.

yes it woudl because atgm can kil ehavy tanks as easily as small oens as long as they have inferior range to the missile. That would make need to use some small tanks for some tasks.


You know that in real life mi-28 and Apache missiles have ranges over 6 km? And that at 4 km the hellfire has over 80% kill rate? AAH shoudl be bane of tanks.. now in game they are a minor hindrance at best

You should tell that to the Soviet Union... They lost how many men to each German... Or to the Vietnamese.

Just a foreword before anyone goes calling me inept and unfit to comment... I am ranked 5th globally(I'd rather not mention this, but people around here can be rather... Foolish).

The problem with W:EE has nothing whatsoever to do with the units, yes there are adjustments to be made here and there but these issues pale in comparison to the greater issue at hand.

The central problem with the game is the victory conditions, no doubt about it. The sole objective in any game is to kill as much of the enemy as possible, that is it. There is nothing whatsoever else to it, everything else is secondary to achieving this goal. Map control merely exists to gain more points to buy more things to kill more stuff. Flanking exists to outmaneuver your opponent so you may kill more of his units than he can yours. Supply is merely to give you the fuel, munitions and slapped on armor to keep your units functioning better than your opponents.

There is no deeper strategy to the game, what exists is putting together a unit-composition that is superior to your opponents and then out-playing him. It is sad but it is true. I wish it wasn't, I really wish that this game rewarding critical thinking and strategic maneuvering, but it does not.