Misfit wrote:ericdude88 wrote:Misfit wrote:T-64x: Good workhorses, with good average stats but all versions suffer from weak side armor. T-64bv is arguably the most cost efficient tank in Pact arsenal.
Not so sure about that. The T-64BV becomes very cost inefficient when it constantly gets 1 hit KO'd by powerful NATO Atgms to its EXTREMELY weak side armor, and masses of cheap units that all have AP above 3 which means even marder vts1's can easily dispatch T64-BVs with a grand total of 4 hits to its side armor at its maximum range of 1925m (!). It is very much worth it to upgrade to high end T-80s for a side armor of 5 (think about it, a mass horde of marder vts coming from all 4 directions will need 10 hits to the side to kill it, much less achievable.)
Absolutely, but then again every MBTs weakness is its side/rear armor. Sure T-80s dont die as easily to VTS1 or cavalry tanks but with a couple tanks on their flanks they are in trouble, as are Leo2s.
With the T-64BV you get a nice package of ATGM, Gun, Stab, Optics and economy for a mere 130 points. Ive had good success with them behind a wall of 16 bmp1 or T-55s for a while. Of course it all boils down to preferences but the BV a good choise to build your force around. After all it has 10 front armor and if you keep it at max distances its a tough nut to crack.
Not sure about surrounding it with weaker tanks making the side armour issue irrelevant. It's not very hard for me to ignore the tanks you have on its side and just simply target your side armor of t-64BV. If you charge a bunch of weak tanks at me, one thing's for sure: I'll take advantage of the fact that you have crap side armour by merely positioning my troops at a 20 degree angle to your front armor (if they weren't positioned already to begin with) to get easy hits on side. And since the BV is probably going to be the biggest threat, I'd target my atgm's at it rather than your meatshields/the tanks on its side. And i usually keep atgms safe from meatshields charging them with my own tanks and infantry in fast carriers to unload right in front of charging T-55s or zhalos.
Putting weaker tanks next to your side armor does not at all make the side armor any more inaccessible to my rounds/ATGMs, nor does one need to actually be on the flank of the tank to hit its side armor. For that reason, I have personally phased out the T_64BV in my arsenal (in fact i've deleted the entire line off my deck).
Also, 130 points is alot to be traded for a few measly VTS1's or a friggin' Tow jeep missile...