1. Alouette III 20mm. Dies in literally three seconds to anything.


Anyone have others?

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1. Every single unit in Wargame:EE (well...without RECON anyway...... )

Just a couple I can think of besides the more common choices (ala all MLRS save for Smerch, all artillery guns save for DANA/MSTA/Auf1)

SPz 11-2 Kurz: Vastly superior option available for just 5 more points (Luchs). I've seen a lot of rare units in the field but I have yet to see anybody field this in MP.

SU-122-54: This is the absolute worst tank destroyer ever. Why is it even BIG sized? 2 AP HEAT? Just buy a regular T-55 or even a T-34 instead. Too bad modernized T-10 ("modernized" IS-3 tanks) or W German Kanonenjagdpanzer isn't in W:EE or I like to see them go toe to toe stat wise.

WOZ ZAOP. Ural: CCCP one much better, more flexible. Never seen this used as well.

The RM-70, just a big waste of money. This rocket artillery vehicule needs to be a lot cheaper to be useful. Currently, it costs 150, the same number than a BM-27 or a Buratino which are much more powerful. The small increase of rate of fire, the 1 point of frontal armor and the medium MG don't compensate for the cost. It's a shame because I really like the look and in real life, it was much more ergonomic than the regular BM-21.

Let's see...

Logistics
- Basic command vehicles (jeeps) that die to any fart in the vicinity
- Woz Zaop. Ural that comes in too few numbers (same number as regular urals but without the upgraded version)

Recon
- Kurz (You get many better things for cheap)
- M113 chassis using units overall (apart from the Zippo)

Tanks
- KPZ T34 that thoroughly sucks in every possible aspect
- Chasseurs (sans FAMAS) for poor stats
- BGS (come on, a recon squad in a M113 transport? You're kidding!)
- Sapery units (units dies of enemy lead before they can use their flames)
- US Riflemen (everything is a better choice)

Support
- The KAMAZ ZU-2362 (Come on, an autocannon on the back of a truck is supposed to be military AAA?)
- MTLB- STRELA (Worst PACT missile AA)
- ZSU-57-2 (the PACT beginner's AA, you remember using when you started to forget it ever existed soon enough)
- ASU-85 support vehicle: 250km autonomy...
- FV 102 Striker (Acccurate as a drunken sailor + ATGM = waste of supplies)

I think that's a good list.

I actually like the RM-70: Very good for sustained fire in an area. If you use several (separated) you can cover a very wide zone for a long time. It won't do direct damage to anything with armour but will wipe out forests of infantry for certain and stun/rout anything.

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So does a flame tank if you send it first.

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Except the tank has a range advantage, while the sappers have to get well in range to deal damage! Of course, once they are there, they wipe the other unit out, but usually lost half of their numbers against regular infantry...

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Glad we don't have that unit ingame then ...


That's why it is not fielded in a tank destroyer role, but an infantry support one instead. With HE 4, it has the same anti-infantry power than a Abbot howitzer or a 120mm mortar round. Besides, its 14,5mm HMG provides some AA cover to the nearby infantry.


May be they ain't the best NATO infantry, but they're the only one that may come with the strongest NATO IFV: the Bradley.


Like the SU-122-54 above, it is an infantry support gun. And being an airdropable one, it lacks autonomy like all its brethen (Sheridan, M8 AGS, Wiesel, ...). It is made to support foot infantry, and is quite useful to add some HE firepower to cheap or recon infantry chasing special forces behind your back.

As for the others mentionned here, some may indeed be weaker than others, but I also think it depends on the way you play or the situation. For example, the OP mentionned Gazelle Canon (and not Alouette III ) is in my opinion a very useful and versatile helo, but is indeed very fragile and "dies to everything" when wrongly handled ... Nevertheless, I always have some in my sleeves ...

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I never found HE 3 lacking in any way when it comes to clearing infantry, still I suppose if anybody wants a up in your face kaboom device.



If you can heli/para droop deploy these along with airborne, they be absolute gold for cost.

I don't consider these to be useless (well, only a few) but it's nice to have them really. I have a themed deck full of those bad units for lulwut games.

The problem with the airborne units is that... they aren't air dropped, and end up being impossible to use in any offensive way. Their firepower really is godly against infantry though, and I used them with quite some effect in the edge of forests where infantry transports and their load where to be blown to bits.

About the riflemen: They have poor stats compared to other NATO units, and while they can come with the Bradley, they are often taken FOR the Bradley. So it's actually a vehicle that's protected by infantry, not the other way round. Funny. Especially since you can buy the Bradley on its own, sadly.

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