It is currently Wed 22 May 2013 19:08

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 12:23 
Offline
Private First-Class

Joined: Tue 14 Feb 2012 03:13
Posts: 6
At first - on mp beta i played ~200 non-ranked games. The were lots of arty or spam with helos\arty. that was not a problem. Now i found 1 great weapon of destruction, and in 10+ games no one countered it. On start build Kiowa Wr. with 5 rank(280 points). and go with it killing enemy's command wehicles. 5 stars give it 72% accuracy on maximal range of hellfire shot, so flak art is not a problem. Exeptional optics give it areat range to find threat and avoid it. 1 kiowa kills 4 com cars by 1 flight(800+ points). Most battles (1v1,3v3,4v4 finished less then in 10 minutes)
So i think now it's best tactic to win in present conditions of game(non ranked of course). What do you think about that?
P.S. sorry for my english.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 12:37 
Offline
Major

Joined: Tue 5 Jul 2011 01:46
Posts: 1964
One hit from a BUK and you're still dead. 280 points spiralling towards the ground. With 4.5km range even exceptional optics isn't going to see one on the edge of a forest until it fires.

Furthermore enemy command vehicles are often in forests. You won't be able to spot these from 2.8km out unless they're badly placed. Might work against people who don't bother to protect their command vehicles, will be a massive waste of points against anybody who does.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 12:38 
Offline
First Sergeant
User avatar

Joined: Sat 11 Feb 2012 12:12
Posts: 212
... ^ What he said.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 12:46 
Offline
Private First-Class

Joined: Tue 14 Feb 2012 03:13
Posts: 6
Tigga wrote:
One hit from a BUK and you're still dead. 280 points spiralling towards the ground. With 4.5km range even exceptional optics isn't going to see one on the edge of a forest until it fires.

Furthermore enemy command vehicles are often in forests. You won't be able to spot these from 2.8km out unless they're badly placed. Might work against people who don't bother to protect their command vehicles, will be a massive waste of points against anybody who does.

yep, 1 buk and 1 recon vehicle plus command car in forest. how much cost this defence on 1 sector? you spend it to defend from air, i can spend this points for land vehicles and move by ground.
And this tactics works ok in non ranked, fighting with good gamers is wasting points, of course. Bu now it works wery-wery good. AND! Pact has no same helo with fire-and-forget missle, and this is bad(

P.S. 1 question, i didn't find answer - Radar guided SAM. need it to have visual contact when aiming, or you can place your Buk deep in forest and it will detect and fire any air target in range of missle(4800m)


Last edited by manwithagun on Fri 24 Feb 2012 12:49, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 12:48 
Offline
Major

Joined: Tue 5 Jul 2011 01:46
Posts: 1964
manwithagun wrote:
yep, 1 buk and 1 recon vehicle plus command car in forest. how much cost this defence on 1 sector? you spend it to defend from air, i can spend this points for land vehicles and move by ground.

Unless something has gone rather badly wrong you should see the Kiowa well before it starts picking off command vehicles. From there it's easy to counter.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 16:14 
Offline
Sergeant Major
User avatar

Joined: Fri 10 Feb 2012 13:59
Posts: 294
lol


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 17:24 
Offline
Corporal

Joined: Thu 16 Feb 2012 01:45
Posts: 37
I love the kiowa, but the Kiowa Warrior I tend to use as a tank destroyer... meaning I have to knock out 2-8 tanks (depending on type and vet) to break even.

I also find that the dreaded BUK, or even a well-placed tunguska, can pretty much end the warrior's day. It also has a tendancy to "overkill", with the missile lock on time being low, and the range being high. I usually waste 1 missile when it launches two at a t-62.

Tank destroyer duty should be handled by the 2nd cheapest cobras, or even better, TOW jeeps (hard to detect being "small") or ATGM crews (even harder, "very small")

I rarely find myself going armor-to-armor as NATO vs. Pact unless they broke through my line and are out in the open.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 18:04 
Online
Staff Sergeant

Joined: Mon 7 Nov 2011 11:41
Posts: 91
The funny thing is, the 280pt Kiowa Warrior, even if it killed the command vehicle first will lose out in a points trade if it's shot down after getting the kill, no matter what the command vehicle is except for a chopper. You're better off just sending in 4 gazelle cannons which have a better chance of getting the kill by getting past the AA if you know exactly where the command vehicle is.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 18:25 
Offline
Corporal

Joined: Wed 22 Feb 2012 01:52
Posts: 33
I use a Kiowa Wr. almost every game. I don't vet mine, but it always kills one or two command vehicles in the first rush. It is so nice when it is the first vehicle in a convoy coming down the road. . .

Think about, and maybe, put recon and AA in the front of the convoy, seeing as how that will help the most.

Its not OP, its 140 pts, and like someone else said, one shot from a BUK does the trick.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 18:44 
Offline
Colonel

Joined: Thu 17 Nov 2011 01:53
Posts: 2530
I love this heli :) Its great for spotting a rush, and inflicting some casualties before contact. But I'd be hesitant to throw away such an expensive unit in an attempt at command assassination.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group