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 Post subject: Re: Fighting Level 1`s!
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 16:17 
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MadGelo wrote:
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You guys are all missing the point. Bringing up unit balance is pointless for a start. It has NOTHING to do with unit balance apart from the fact that units you unlock and cost MORE stars tend to be better, much better, then lower level ones, so the argument that that units balance out and stars dont matter is just a lie and a self-defeating argument.

The point here is that he wants to find a match that he feels is fair with a player who has a similar number of stars. You cant do that at the moment as a level 1 MP player could have 500 stars and no one would know it. Its not a good way for people to find a evens match.

Again, balance has nothing to do with this particular argument. Its about finding a player of an equivalent level of stars for a fair, even...BALANCED match.

wonder what you are compensating for with all the pics in your signature


and if he wants fair match, he should play ranked games


Why would the number of pics in my profile mean I am compensating for anything? Dont make assumptions about someone based on that, its silly. As for ranked games, they are 1v1, what if someone wants to play more than just 1v1 and wants it to be fair?

Now, stop being factitious and stop making assumptions about people based on their signatures and avatar.

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 Post subject: Re: Fighting Level 1`s!
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 16:19 
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Cmdr_RAinbow_Dash wrote:
MadGelo wrote:
Cmdr_RAinbow_Dash wrote:
You guys are all missing the point. Bringing up unit balance is pointless for a start. It has NOTHING to do with unit balance apart from the fact that units you unlock and cost MORE stars tend to be better, much better, then lower level ones, so the argument that that units balance out and stars dont matter is just a lie and a self-defeating argument.

The point here is that he wants to find a match that he feels is fair with a player who has a similar number of stars. You cant do that at the moment as a level 1 MP player could have 500 stars and no one would know it. Its not a good way for people to find a evens match.

Again, balance has nothing to do with this particular argument. Its about finding a player of an equivalent level of stars for a fair, even...BALANCED match.

wonder what you are compensating for with all the pics in your signature


and if he wants fair match, he should play ranked games


Why would the number of pics in my profile mean I am compensating for anything? Dont make assumptions about someone based on that, its silly. As for ranked games, they are 1v1, what if someone wants to play more than just 1v1 and wants it to be fair?

Now, stop being factitious and stop making assumptions about people based on their signatures and avatar.


I didnt mean to insult you

never said there was anything wrong with pony fetish


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 Post subject: Re: Fighting Level 1`s!
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 16:21 
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MadGelo wrote:

I didnt mean to insult you

never said there was anything wrong with pony fetish


Its not a fetish. And while I realise that you arent trying to be insulting, maybe we should just drop the pony thing. I like MLP, its not a fetish.

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 Post subject: Re: Fighting Level 1`s!
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 16:26 
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lol lets look at madgelo. if we were all as nieve and content in our own ignorance we could assume you are your general soccer (football) hooligan ?

but im sure not. the only thing we can really assume is by there actions and the core of what they are saying. so given that we have a topical debate here. madgelo take your nieve ignorant self elsewhere please so the topic at hand can be discussed. go derail your own topical discussion.


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 Post subject: Re: Fighting Level 1`s!
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 16:31 
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Pixelchaser wrote:
lol lets look at madgelo. if we were all as nieve and content in our own ignorance we could assume you are your general soccer (football) hooligan ?

but im sure not. the only thing we can really assume is by there actions and the core of what they are saying. so given that we have a topical debate here. madgelo take your nieve ignorant self elsewhere please so the topic at hand can be discussed. go derail your own topical discussion.

you know about trowing stones when you live in a glass house?

when you start threads like this, don't post words like "ignorant" and "naive" when referring to others ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Fighting Level 1`s!
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 16:32 
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Okay, enough of the flaming.

Lets all play nicely now.

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 Post subject: Re: Fighting Level 1`s!
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 16:37 
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Cmdr_RAinbow_Dash wrote:
Okay, enough of the flaming.

Lets all play nicely now.


indeed, and still to the point, playing nicely and fairly against properly formed statistics. :lol: anyway i have no wish to go over old ground. i hope the developers are aware and consider the issue ive initially conveyed in a rant style manner(sorry)(bows)(i really love the game!). Iam just a bit put off by said issues.


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 Post subject: Re: Fighting Level 1`s!
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 16:44 
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Well.

1. Yes having a bigger diversity of units available can be an advantage (if you know how to handle them).

2. On the other hand: The more variety you have, the longer it takes to get used to each unit.

3. Aside from that. More expensive units or units with more stars to unlock are not automatically better.



There was a different topic a while ago where someone had problems countering a marder-rush with his MBTs.
Conclusion of that: His MBTs where oversized for the job. So instead he got light tanks that where only slightly stronger than the marders. However they where much cheaper, so he could get more of them.

This game is all about using the right tool for the job. Get units that are as expensive as necessary, but as cheap as possible.

In some situations, a cheap 20-resource unit from your starter deck can be incredibly more useful than that fancy ~200 point MBT that you've just unlocked.



And dont tell me resource-cost isn't important.: The more expensive the units you field, the more you risk loosing and the faster your enemy will acumulate enough points to win.



To sum it up... having a way to see the amount of stars someone has wouldn't hurt, but only because of this:
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Yes having a bigger diversity of units available can be an advantage

The OP still totally exaggerated the impact of command-star-unlocks, which I think was the main reason for all those harsh responses.


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 Post subject: Re: Fighting Level 1`s!
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 16:46 
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As I said before, the "Level" is an indicator of multiplayer experience... In other words, how many games they have played.
If you want a better indicator of skill level then look at the ladder rank players have, and if you're not playing ranked, well, I duno.

By the way, you do know that you can unlock the apache first thing at level 2 and the support for it at level 3, right? Just unlock some good missile AA at level 2 (Takes 1 - 2 games to get there at the most) and use it well and the apaches are a thing of the past.


Oh, and Rainbow... While you are free to love MLP all you wish and nobody proboably gives a damn about that bit(Two of my firends are "Bronies", so I know I dont.) putting it in your sig alongside two ping/speed tests makes you look silly.

The thing is that it's very likely that not a single person here cares about your ping/speed and only serves to make the pages longer. This makes it both useless and annoying to anyone but you and if you know this but have them there anyway then people will think you are childish and just maybe, have a "Talking down to you" tone.

No offense, Just sayin' that it's partly to that people may take a certain tone.

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 Post subject: Re: Fighting Level 1`s!
PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2012 16:54 
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nikomas wrote:

Oh, and Rainbow... While you are free to love MLP all you wish and nobody proboably gives a damn about that bit(Two of my firends are "Bronies", so I know I dont.) putting it in your sig alongside two ping/speed tests makes you look silly.

The thing is that it's very liekly that not a single person here cares about your ping/speed and only serves to make the pages longer. This makes it both useless and annoying to anyone but you. And if you know this but have them there anyway then people will think you are childish and just maybe, have a "Talking down to you" tone.

Just sayin'


They are just place holders. Ive already replaced one of them. :)

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