War is a leftover of the barbaric ages which we should have since evolved from. Why do we still practice it? Because it remains the quickest way to squash, take over or kickstart enconomies of our choice.

And everytime someone says that, another country gets invaded and innocent people slaughtered. You can't escape the fact that evil men exist. It is a fact. There are people who want to do you and your family harm, just because you speak a certain language or are a certain religion. Even countries that are neutral still have standing armies simply for defence.

so you go an assume i have no counter arguments? And yet you play a game that calls for use of force against armed individuals? How hypocritical is that? At least i can put on a uniform and act for what i stand for. You just sit back and spout out your rhetoric against those who stand to defend you, which is fine. Im used to that as a soldier, a canadian soldier to be specific. If we use the same arguments.. we dont need fire fighters because fires "never happen anymore" or "fires are barbaric". we wont need rescue people anymore because "no one ever gets lost anymore". Its this thinking that leads to the subjugation of races and has throughout history.

So again.. what do we do with the people that are attempting to squash us? Who have threatened our very existence? Allow them to kill us perhaps? Concede to their demands? Up to you really. You can get rid of the uniform but ill always be there to make sure you can say whatever you want to say and spit on us and call us names and throw stuff at us. It's the canadian way.

I am not worried about the encirclement of Russia, I have stated that "Rimland" theory is the most probable advisable theory in the US geopolitics. And we can see this encirclement with the expansion of NATO into eastern Europe.

Reasons to destabilize the middle east-

-Safety of Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline (sponsored by western oil companies). One major threat to this pipeline is Tartus Russian Base.

-Banyas (major port and major adversary of B-T-C pipeline) and Homs refineries in Syria, as well as north eastern Syrian oil fields which are connected to them.

-Turkmenistan-Afganistan-Pakistan Pipeline (US project) vs Iran-Pakistani-Indian pipeline (Iranian project). If T-A-P pipeline is not complete US loses control over energy needs of India and gives regional power to I-P-I pipeline.

-Mubarak and Qaddafi quitting the dollar as their trade currency.

-Libya has 30% of world oil supply, and exploiting many disorganized and warring clans is easier then Dealing with Qaddafi.

-Egypt has one of the most important canals which is essential to the United States as it is a sea power.

-Middle east has 56% of the worlds oil supply, if I want to dominate distribution and price of this highly inelastic commodity that is where I would look for my monopoly on supply. There are no other "powers" getting anything out of the Arab spring other than EU and US.

Bahrain was in the news when formula one was there, after that all has stopped. From what my colleague from Bahrain told me, there are still unrests there.

Add billions of "dictators" money in European banks, Chinese and Russian investments in that region, and Qaddafi's planes to create new all-Africa currency with gold standard.

Accidental killing of civilians will happen in war, but NATO still doesn't accept it and unit commanders are removed from command and charged when this happens.

Genocide is defined as "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group"

And that makes 100000 civilian deaths which happend in Iraq justified? Well done sir, well done. On one hand you say that any civilian deaths are not acceptable (which I agree, and I think all would agree on), on the other you easily justify 100000 (!) of those deaths.

So are you saying that if a liberating force can't guarantee that there will be no civilian casualties, there should be no attempt at said liberation?

Sadly, you can't have one without the other.

If liberators can't guarantee that they coming will not start blood civil war with ethnic and religious mass murders, than yes. It will be much better to leave "evil" dictator alone. Maybe "evil" dictator has reasons to oppress some people. IIRC main treatment against Saddam was his operations against Kurds. And IIRC after "liberation" operations against Kurds continued. From outside it looked like evil Saddam kills poor innocent Kurds. After occupation people found that Kurds live on territory with extreme rich oil fields and they want to be independent state. And they fight for independence with terroristic methods.

T-80U shoots AP rounds made of pure Communism... any more questions?