It's the M113, not the M113A1. The M113 was the original petrol variant that had a bad fuel economy, while the M113A1 swapped this engine for a diesel one, that gave a better fuel economy : http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/cv/inf/M113.html

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Blowpipes are also only NATO dedicated anti-air unit that comes in wheeled transport. Another thing is that Blowpipes and Dragon ATGM's are very cheap to vet for pretty solid accuracy.



It would work if they had made all prices(and starting points etc.) like 4 times higher, so that all units that currently cost 5 would had cost 20. That would had left necessary room for readjustments, starting immediately from lowest available price they made system very inflexible for cheapest units.

Earlier I had a thought nagging at me regarding Legionnaires vs FA-MAS Legionnaires.

If the rifle mechanics are the same as machine guns, wouldn't the 9mm submachine gun do more damage per shot? So, essentially, I'm wondering if the 9mm SMG is an in-between as far as damage dealt between 5.56 and 7.62

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As far as I've seen, they are both quite equal in terms of damage (since at forest view range the accuracy isn't such a problem) but Legion FAMAS deal more Morale damage, and (The real plus) are almost certain to one-shot vehicles in forests, meaning enemy infantry transports get destroyed fast, stunning infantry inside.

BUT -And that's what's interesting- Regular Legion have a much more affordable price and can be used as sort of upgraded line infantry, with good numbers. My current deck has both + Jägers as "Combat" infantry.

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Ah, sorry, that's what I meant when I said damage. So that's interesting, really.

Honestly, my infantry slots are full of IFVs + troops for availability reasons (Bradley, trying Marder), I don't have more than the Chasseur FA-MAS and Fernspaher for dealing with infantry and CQB, so far it's kind of working out, autocannons providing support where they fall through.

And, obviously the Milan F2s. Hahaha.

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(Edited the post, it was clear in my head, but messed up in the answer).

9mm deal less morale damage in my exerience.

Chasseurs Famas + Fernspaher is a great combination as the Ferns don't have AT and the chasseurs are the worst (damage-wise) nato "Reliable" infantry.

For an IFV, the AMX-10p can be fun, though it's not really a direct combat vehicle.

I'm trying different versions ATM, with either the legion or legion famas with the AMX, and the other in VAB (So I don't mix them up when deploying). So far, it seemed to me it's better for the AMX to be with regular legion as you can buy Veterancy for them when you can afford it, but then the Legion get a bit too costly for "Regular+/Shock- infantry" to deploy. If used with the FAMAS, they aren't experienced otherwise it costs too much, but provide decent firepower.

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BlowPipe deal a lot of critical shot.
So they often deal 5 damage instead of 3 like its wrote in their description.

I hope you all know 7.62 caliber stun very fast but 5.56 kill quicker?
Ofc, like FLX said, as fast an ennemy is stuned, it will be easy to kill him.
For exemple a Famas squad need to kill 8 of 10 men for making them flee if they dont have any XP.
A G3 team only need to kill 4 or 5 of them.
Its the major reason why Chasseur Famas are one of the worst infantery with US riflemen as NATO troops.

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It's not just about stunning, it's about dropping morale and therefore reducing combat efficieny quite a lot in a continuous manner.

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Higher HE values can be pretty quickly nullified by factors like caliber inducing morale damage or who started firing at who first, which is pretty cool, I suppose. Alright, I love it, when the rules are soft and malleable as far as what is likely going to win, it's pretty awesome.

Before primarily I used Legion FA-MAS with the Fernspaher, worked out extremely well. Just properly distracting 2 Spetsnaz can give 4 Legion FA-MAS units the time they need to stun and kill them off quickly, which is a great to use VABs for.

Panzergrenadiers so far have been relatively useful, except for the fact they chew through more ammo and hit less targets than Milan F2 teams ever would, but it can be a force multiplier at times, kind of requires ammo and doesn't suit the infiltration role, which is what I'm primarily orientated towards now.

Which Hinds are freaking hilarious for, but wrong thread. xD

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I ended up hating their AT grenades so much that I kicked the Fernspäher out. That the Fuchs has a mmg instead of an hmg didn't help it either. If they could at least hit a moving target with their grenades but sadly they work like mortars, its hilarious killing them by driving around them. Currently use the Legion Famas in their role but they lack the 23kmh speed and good optics and HE3 rifles, they also conflict with my Chasseurs. I may end up using sappeurs with some other recon inf, at least they kill infantry and transports.

As Pact I am so happy about my inf, the FJB 40 are what a Fernspäher should be for me, apart from Milan F2 I pretty much like Pact inf a lot more.

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