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 Post subject: [Reference] PACT Deck
PostPosted: Sat 24 Mar 2012 15:37 
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Below is my configured PACT deck which I think is quite perfect!
I am showing why I choose the units.
Logistic
    BRDM-2U -The speed and armor payoff for the extra 20pts
    Mi-2D -Provide control of a zone when being aggressive
    FOB -Everyone need this! Don't you?!
    Mi-26 -Large Heli supply for long distant or large amount
    T813 -Everyone knows Kolos too well! (T813=Kolo)

Recon
    AufklFZ UAZ -Cheap recon for spamming and safetiness
    BRDM-1 -Not use actually
    BRDM-2 -Swift recon with arnament to hunt down lonely CVs
    OT-65A VYDRA -Even faster recon to hunt down lonely CVs
    Mi-9 -exceptional optics for extra long range scouting

Tank
    T-55+All Variants -Mainly use T-55AMV-1 for its cheap armored ATGMs
    T-62+All Variants -Mainly use T-62 obr 1975 and T-62M-V for its accuracy on both Gun and ATGMs
    T-72+All Variants -Cheap armor! For soaking enemy fire.
    T-80+All Variants -Mainly use T80 for armor or T-80U for pwnage(Best tank in game)
    To-55+To-62 -Awsome Flamethrower to stun/repel both tanks and infantry

Infantry
    4 VPZU + SKOT series -Epic Special Force with very good optics, for recon mostly
    MOT.-SCHUTZEN +SPW-60PB/MP-1 SP-1 -Jack of all trade infantry, bad speed though
    Motostrelci + SKOT series -CHEAP! With decent bazooka, repell tank squads in numbers.
    Spadochroniarze + SKOT series -Good trade for 9accuracy rifleman

Support
    Akatsiya series -Only use 2S3M Akatsiya for its accuracy, mostly for counter enemy arties. Have better armor than DANAs
    OSA series -You WILL ask why not use BUK?!?! It made me leave BUK due to its reload speed and its low point costs with better crossroad speed. Must vet it to improve accuracy, but still cheaper than BUK.
    Uragan/Smerch -Reason is too obvious!Mostly use Smerch for accuracy and numbers
    BTR-152E ZPTU series -PACT version of vulcan! Infantry repeller and AA! Cheap also! But low range. usually put in forests.
    TOS-1 Buratino -For harrasment/assualt support, the number+HE+armor of Burat made it standout!
PS: I have tried Tungsika and Strop 2, they doesn't suit me. Tungsika is generally too slow and expensive, while Strop2 have sheer number of missile and low ROF(although I like its speed)

Heli

    Mi-2 URP series -Heli with SAM! Fast AA support when your ground AA is dead.
    Mi-24 series -Mostly use Mi-24P for decent all-round Heli, just in case of anything.


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Mar 2012 16:05 
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A few critiques.

Artarka wrote:
Logistic
    Mi-2D -Provide control of a zone when being aggressive

These things are so vulnerably to damn near everything, cost so much, and you only get two. I've tried using them and found them to generally be a waste of points.

Artarka wrote:
Recon
    AufklFZ UAZ -Cheap recon for spamming and safetiness

Why not the Russian line of the recon UAZ? They all cost the same, and you get the option of the AGS-17 version for an extra 10 points.

Artarka wrote:
    To-55+To-62 -Awsome Flamethrower to stun/repel both tanks and infantry

I've actually found the TO-62 generally useless. For 5 more points, you get a tank that--while it has 1 point more of frontal armor and 1 more AP power--is slower and has a shorter range. As a result, I'd suggest using the FlammPz TO-55, since you get more deployments from that TO-55 line than you do from the Russian TO-55.

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    BTR-152E ZPTU series -PACT version of vulcan! Infantry repeller and AA! Cheap also! But low range. usually put in forests.

Have you tried the Kamaz ZU-23-2? While it doesn't have the same ROF, it's a faster vehicle (all the better to respond to chopper threads and keep up with the column), has a greater operation range, weapon range, and better accuracy.

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    Mi-2 URP series -Heli with SAM! Fast AA support when your ground AA is dead.

I've found that its missiles are so terribly inaccurate as to be worthless. I'd prefer to use the Mi-2 US; attack air units with the cannon, and it comes with very good optics to boot.

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Mar 2012 16:23 
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What about hte East German armoured scout car with machine gun that costs only 20 points?


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Mar 2012 16:29 
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Xeno426 wrote:
These things are so vulnerably to damn near everything, cost so much, and you only get two. I've tried using them and found them to generally be a waste of points.

Well, I find it useful as rushing! I sometimes combine force of two people doing a land,build and takeoff sequel in result of good aggressive move.
Xeno426 wrote:
Why not the Russian line of the recon UAZ? They all cost the same, and you get the option of the AGS-17 version for an extra 10 points.

Sure, Im just too lazy ;) I don't use the upgraded version at all actually. And German looks cool.
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I've actually found the TO-62 generally useless. For 5 more points, you get a tank that--while it has 1 point more of frontal armor and 1 more AP power--is slower and has a shorter range. As a result, I'd suggest using the FlammPz TO-55, since you get more deployments from that TO-55 line than you do from the Russian TO-55.

I totally agree, but in game, I once found myself ran out of flamethrowers! So that To-62 was unlocked just in case of anything.
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Have you tried the Kamaz ZU-23-2? While it doesn't have the same ROF, it's a faster vehicle (all the better to respond to chopper threads and keep up with the column), has a greater operation range, weapon range, and better accuracy.

Yes I tried it, the 1 improvent of accuracy doesn't make a great difference. In addition to I use those AA mainly for base defending so speed isn't important for me, higher ROF can stun everything faster killing infantry better.
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I've found that its missiles are so terribly inaccurate as to be worthless. I'd prefer to use the Mi-2 US; attack air units with the cannon, and it comes with very good optics to boot.

I agree that accuracy is awful, i use it as a scarecrow mostly. Its unlucky that PACT doesn't have heli with high ROF gatling gun like the Cobra do, meeting Cobra would be suicidal even with Mi-2 US as they have higher ROF even varients with Autocannons not to mention the gatling guns.
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What about hte East German armoured scout car with machine gun that costs only 20 points?

I really would wanna pay 10 extra for a better optics and speed, the machine gun is useless either infantry can kill you immediatly


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Mar 2012 16:39 
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brogan123 wrote:
What about hte East German armoured scout car with machine gun that costs only 20 points?


I'm actually a fan of this little recon vehicle SPW-40B. It's the absolute dirt cheapest recon unit in the whole game and I find it nice to send into flanks or rear areas where you don't expect a lot of traffic. Stick it to main roads and then go off road, and it won't go wrong most of the time. I must admit it would be much more useful it there were other alternative models besides the base one though.


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Mar 2012 20:03 
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Artarka wrote:
I totally agree, but in game, I once found myself ran out of flamethrowers! So that To-62 was unlocked just in case of anything.

The Russian TO-55 line gives you 8 TO-55s plus 4 TO-62s, total of 12 tanks deployable.
The FlammPz TO-55 give you a flat 12 TO-55 tanks to deploy.

Overall, you get the same number of tanks in each category, but the German line gives you more overall TO-55 tanks.

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Just a general note - there is nothing like a perfect deck in Wargame. There may be one that suits your style of play most. For example you don't have a single vehicle in your whole deck.

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Mar 2012 22:53 
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Artarka wrote:
    OSA series -You WILL ask why not use BUK?!?! It made me leave BUK due to its reload speed and its low point costs with better crossroad speed. Must vet it to improve accuracy, but still cheaper than BUK.


The Buk-mi is for a very different job than the OSA, note the long range. You'll use it to kill recon helis and apaches, or to generally establish no-fly zones. Leaving it out makes a big hole in your deck.

As they say, a general deck doesn't fit all battles and there's many strategies which you couldn't pull off with a general deck.

It's a fairly balanced deck, I could run something similar myself. But it feels you have some major omissions, I just couldn't go without a few units added ;) You should dig through the vehicles category, there's 1 or 2 that would really do wonders to this deck. Also, reliance on those command helis is dangerous, IMO... unless you mostly let teammates take care of capturing points.

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danuuker wrote:
brogan123 wrote:
What about hte East German armoured scout car with machine gun that costs only 20 points?


I'm actually a fan of this little recon vehicle SPW-40B. It's the absolute dirt cheapest recon unit in the whole game and I find it nice to send into flanks or rear areas where you don't expect a lot of traffic. Stick it to main roads and then go off road, and it won't go wrong most of the time. I must admit it would be much more useful it there were other alternative models besides the base one though.



You might as well use the recon UAZ.

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Mar 2012 02:48 
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Xeno426 wrote:
The Russian TO-55 line gives you 8 TO-55s plus 4 TO-62s, total of 12 tanks deployable.
The FlammPz TO-55 give you a flat 12 TO-55 tanks to deploy.

Thanks, Ill change it, I didn't have much Command stars to spare for checking out ;)
varis wrote:
The Buk-mi is for a very different job than the OSA, note the long range. You'll use it to kill recon helis and apaches, or to generally establish no-fly zones. Leaving it out makes a big hole in your deck.

I agree that it is a good unit and do its job well, but BUK is VERY expensive and slow. Its a pain when you lost one. So OSA series fit me more, note that it SAM missile isn't necessary to hit to make damage (it self-explode in mid-air).
Oliver wrote:
Just a general note - there is nothing like a perfect deck in Wargame. There may be one that suits your style of play most. For example you don't have a single vehicle in your whole deck.

Oliver wrote:
s they say, a general deck doesn't fit all battles and there's many strategies which you couldn't pull off with a general deck.

It's a fairly balanced deck, I could run something similar myself. But it feels you have some major omissions, I just couldn't go without a few units added ;) You should dig through the vehicles category, there's 1 or 2 that would really do wonders to this deck. Also, reliance on those command helis is dangerous, IMO... unless you mostly let teammates take care of capturing points.

Yes, I agree that there is not a perfect deck for everyone, so i wrote 'reference' on the topic ;)
As for the ommission of vehicle, i know there are some good unit in Vehicle category like BMP-3, BRDM-2 Konkur, MT-LB SHTRUM-S and UAZ 469. But i have replaced them with T-55,T-64. They have missile that are decent. As for BMP-3, I doesn't like its thin armor, rushing BMP-3 will be suicidal anyway. (i suck at using it)


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