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PostPosted: Thu 8 Mar 2012 20:06 
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Armed recon choppers are useful if there isn't AA

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PostPosted: Thu 8 Mar 2012 20:54 
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Delta Force, those guys are pretty much invincible. :D

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PostPosted: Fri 9 Mar 2012 01:52 
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Command sniping is such a cowardly tactic. I don't think it should be encouraged. It allows teams that are getting soundly beaten to have a chance to win that their play doesn't justify.


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PostPosted: Fri 9 Mar 2012 01:57 
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I use Vabs after I've dropped off my infantry in a wood. They're hilariously good at it.


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PostPosted: Fri 9 Mar 2012 04:41 
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As already said, the Sagaie (french recon) or its upgraded variant.

A sagaie with a bit of experience is a fast, small target, with very good sights, a good range, and enough damage to kill a command vehicle with one shot. The fact that it shoots one at a time, unlike auto canons, make it hard to spot for a human player, as it isn't as loud. The bit of veterancy is to be certain to hit. It is a sniper/recon.

Its upgrade is slightly bigger, so harder to hide, but more deadly, able to be used as a part-time tank hunter, overall better than the Sagaie for quite a few more points.

As NATO, theses two are nice. And if you are afraid to be found out, just use them to pinpoint command units with Auf1 artillery: It is deadly accurate, and the third/fourth shots of the (corrected shots) volley hit dead centre.

I generally have a lynx+ reconnaissance gazelle hunting for unprotected command units in hedges, Sagaies against ones protected by AA, AMX when against a tougher resistance, and infantry drop and infiltrate when I know it is hidden deep in a forest (or just ambush it just out of the forest it is hiding in when you pound it with mortar/artillery fire)

With pact, I generally don't have to rely on assassination, but slightly tougher helicopters and overall lack of long range AA (people are reluctant on buying Chapparal) makes any ATGM heli do the job.


On a side note, NATO's vehicles techniques here are very good against artillery.

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PostPosted: Fri 9 Mar 2012 05:26 
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MajoorHokie wrote:
Command sniping is such a cowardly tactic. I don't think it should be encouraged. It allows teams that are getting soundly beaten to have a chance to win that their play doesn't justify.


There's another game that does this.

It's called Chess.


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PostPosted: Fri 9 Mar 2012 06:14 
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Daisho wrote:
MajoorHokie wrote:
Command sniping is such a cowardly tactic. I don't think it should be encouraged. It allows teams that are getting soundly beaten to have a chance to win that their play doesn't justify.


There's another game that does this.

It's called Chess.


+1.

I won some games because the enemy had an overwhelming attacking advantage. Because he didn't spend anything on defence, then went crying when his two command units got sniped. Losing 2500 to 800 and wining, it is a great feeling I tell you.

Defending PCs is part of strategy. It isn't cowardice to hunt commanders, its taking advantage from a defensive flaw, regaining the advantage, even when pushed back.

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PostPosted: Fri 9 Mar 2012 10:49 
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VAB's on nato side. they are great for hunting command vehicles after they have dropped of there inf. They are usually fast enough to race past any defence or they are fast enough and have the range to move arround all the forces and race into the enemy base. You miight lose em in the end but if you get atleast one enemy command its worth it. About 40% of the time they get the job done or and about 80% of the time they atleast show me the location of the command vehicle.

I even had one round against a team (2vs2) where i had 1 vab going all the way around and kill 2 command vehicles they had left undefended.


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PostPosted: Fri 9 Mar 2012 11:24 
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If you don't protect your command trucks then me killing them is completely fair game. You're making the choice to sacrifice their defense for an advantage on the front line, not me. I tend to find command truck sniping works best if your opponent is hyper-agressive, as then they don't even have much main force nearby.

As for units to hunt them down - I find I get most command truck kills with my Luchs. I guess it does pretty much the same as the Sagaie but has to close in a bit more to be effective. You often have to close in anyway to see them in the cover, so I guess this is fine.

Another strategy you can use is recon infantry combined with corrected shots from arty, especially rocket arty. There's not much time to dodge a huge mob of rockets flying and your command vehicle. It's usually easier to get in there due to the size, but can't do the job itself.

Finally, very fast APCs. VABs/Fuchs/Spartans/Skots can all punch through enemy lines and get to the juicey bits. Without infantry they'll struggle to kill anything but unarmoured command trucks, but with infantry in once you're there the command vehicle is toast.


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PostPosted: Fri 9 Mar 2012 13:29 
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vs PACT - anything with a gun is able to kill a command vehicle - since no PACT command vehicle is armoured all round. So the ideal I suppose is something small and quick. VAB? Luchs?

vs NATO - most players bring something with at least 1 armour all round. The OT APC with the recoiless rifle is pretty good and goes reasonably quickly (70km/h IIRC). Otherwise, I find that spare Motostrelci in SKOTs seem to do ok too.


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