Shame the FV432 is not in this.

1. The 30mm Rarden version (included) was only deployed to Berlin.

2. The Mortar Carrier 432 was a key part of infantry tactics at the time (use the M1113 version for now I guess).

3. 432 was the HQ vehicle for most units, sultan was more rare.

Other UK Vehicles

A. Spartan was only used as an APC for non infantry units.

B. FV438 was a GW carrier in Armoured Units, striker was only in Recce (earlier both were held in RA).

C. BTW - Warrior was brand new in about 1987, I believe they didn`t make it to BAOR until then, I certainly didn`t see any, before that. Even though they were around in 1985 I think they were only in trials still.

D. Shame the SAXON was not used instead of the Saracen, Saracen was not in BAOR except as a gate guard, from mid 1970s.

Great to see the game balance was the driver on this rather than historical accuracy though, its more important. As I didn`t get fried by tactical Nukes in the mid 80`s, I guess we can let these issues drop, its all fantasy.

Nice ideas for some DLC later on though

Adding FH70 and Tracked Rapier as well please.

BTW - If it rains all British Infantry should go to half speed as their webbing now ways 5 x as much, oh the memories

Agreed, it jammed to much it took Heckler & Koch to fix the design flaws with it a decade later at a cost, new cocking handle design, stronger recoil springs, and a mod to the gas parts and bolt carrier ejector head.

Even on the range on a fine day in the UK the A1 would Jam If you were stupid enough not to prep the weapon before firing it would jam after the first round.

Switching to automatic was fun when the thing worked and the range staff were easy going.

A2 is something else tho never had one issue with it, well i did but that was my fault when firing blank rounds other than that the weapon is great no one complains about it anymore it just works.

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Yes, we know that. But it doesn't mean it could not be included ...


Agreed, but in game terms, there wouldn't have been much difference between FV432 (M) and the American M125.


Again, in game terms, a Command FV432 wouldn't have been quite similar to a M577, while the Sultan offers more difference.


What does `non infantry`means? Cooks and clercks?


The Saxon entered service too late, in the early 80's if I recall.
That would have left the British infantry without wheeled transport until that date in the solo campaign. And since the Spartan is not available in the first operations either, that would mean British infantry foot-slogging through it.


There's no towed-artillery or equipment in Wargame. So, no FH70.
For the Tracked Rapier, it has already been discussed several times on this forum.


That's an interesting idea.
We'll keep it in mind for a patch.

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Things like combat engineers and air defence troops I believe.

[EUG]MadMat
command sections?

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Would it be abit redundant to have the Royal Marines in there? I do love them.

Or maybe more of the Gurkhas, we have them helping us fighting the commies in Malaysia alot.

Abit offtopic: Will infantries get specialized in a way? It might make certain infantry perform better if it's in a forest, urban, etc.

Maybe for Corps! But Infantry are fighting fit. Contact drills ditch the bergans and then your on belt webbing for the fight and its nothing to a strong fit soldier.

Honestly webbing with your ammo and basic food and water is nothing and if you can't march with your gear then you should not be infantry.

UK Inf say if its not raining then were not training.

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Someone mentioned it already with no reasonable reply to it, but why is the Mi-28 HAVOC in the game when the period is 1975-1985?

Trials were still being done in 1986 (when they decided it would be the Mi-28 instead of the Ka-50)

Both the Ka-50 (32 built by the time of the article below) and the Mi-28 (43 built for CCCP and 14 for Venezuela) entered service in 1995 and 1996 respectively. So they are post-cold war material actually...

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft ... aft_id=286


In 1994 those were not even included in the series of planes/helo's we had to learn for my Stinger duties...

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Because it has been on the drawing tables from the mid/late 70's, and we consider that, had international crisis occured or a full war been declared in the mid-80's, such projects would have received massive funding and be completed much earlier than reality.
Mi-28 was ready from the mid-80's and on the production line in the late 80's. Had not the Fall of Communism frozen the project for a decade, it would have been available in the early 90's.

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The level of consideration you gave to this is rather epic