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PostPosted: Tue 7 Aug 2012 08:21 
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Joskip. What youre saying actually intrigues me ALOT. Add me on steam man

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PostPosted: Tue 7 Aug 2012 09:10 
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Joskip wrote:
misfit wrote:

Right now its a bad decision to even have a full platoon of modern, read expensive, tanks.



My answer? Full platoons of cheap, heavily armoured tanks. For PACT (though they need it less) the 45 costing T-72 springs to mind, for NATO I believe there is something similar. The T-72 can withstand 2 hits from most ATGM without blowing up and pretty much any artillery strike, making it perfect for the role of taking the heat during an attack, while light units (and heavy tanks) mess up the enemy army. When attacking yourself things become more complicated.


Thats cool.....but the emphasis was on modern, expensive tanks. Maybe i should have been more clear, it was too easy to miss in the sentence. :roll:
Good effort though.


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PostPosted: Tue 7 Aug 2012 09:20 
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Only tanks i use usually Are platoons of Abrams with M3 CFV's in pairs behind them.

Iraq Invasion style lol. Lot of open ground those M3's make life easy for the abrams. Its ALMOST as if units "communicate" sometimes

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PostPosted: Tue 7 Aug 2012 13:44 
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Joskip wrote:
Thanks very much for the link, it'll surely come in handy. Besides actual in-game countries, do you have any other ideas for countries (for instance Iran) which might be fun to play with or against? One of my goals is to be able to create a story behind the battle, like a Second Korean War would involve the USA, South Korea and North Korea (perhaps China though that is a hard one to make).

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I only briefly looked thru the Russian and U.S. forces for Cold War Era in Europe but didn't notice any ONTOS.


Everyone here does seem to love the M50 Ontos, or are you perhaps referring to somekind of abbreviation? Just the term TO&E forced me to use Google so it might well be.


I want to have the Ontos in game :twisted:


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PostPosted: Wed 8 Aug 2012 20:54 
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Joskip. What youre saying actually intrigues me ALOT. Add me on steam man

Deltafox209

when i get net back i know another person thatd absolutely love this idea



Great. I don't really use steam all that much but I'll look into it and add you. Tell me if your friend wants me to add him too or if either of you has a new idea for a deck (or perhaps already made a nice one) or battle to roleplay. Or of course if you have anything else to say that's fine too.



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Thats cool.....but the emphasis was on modern, expensive tanks. Maybe i should have been more clear, it was too easy to miss in the sentence.
Good effort though.



Ah in that case my comment was rather stupid, I guess I should read more thoroughly. Anyway, the Challenger 1 is your best bet then, in combination with good recon and artillery. Even with ATGM it won't go down (at least not in a single blow) and the artillery can blow any kind of atgm to smithereens (I continuously notice that playing as the ATGM using side). For me the magic of a tank in no way is it's main gun or offensive capabilities, it's it ability to take hits. Hits that would have destroyed your lighter units, the actual units that fend off an attack or secure an area.


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I want to have the Ontos in game :twisted:



Even if it sucked (I hate recoilless rifles) it would still look awesome in-game.


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PostPosted: Thu 9 Aug 2012 13:02 
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Cold war wise there were very few T72, T62, T55 series for the soviet offensive in Europe.

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PostPosted: Thu 9 Aug 2012 14:28 
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Btw MAD MAT, your PDF table appears to have wrong numbers for tank companies.

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PostPosted: Thu 9 Aug 2012 14:33 
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This is true for Soviet forces in East Germany as far as I can tell. I know pretty much nothing about Soviet offensive plans in Europe, but I was wondering whether the following is true:

- assuming a quick escalation, from peace to full-scale war, only the forces in the two German states would be involved due to time constraints

- now if we assume there is a prolonged (a few months or even a year) period of rising tension leading up to war, would the Soviets and their Pact allies deploy the units from the territory east of the Oder. Was there an option to strategically redeploy units from internal Soviet military districts to Western Europe, given enough time. Same question for allied units. Were there any plans to deploy Romanian, Czechoslovak, Bulgarian or Hungarian units for an attack on West Germany? I know very little, but IIRC, the Soviet war plans generally only included GSFG, the NVA and parts of the LWP (Ludowe Wojsko Polskie, Polish Army) .


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PostPosted: Thu 9 Aug 2012 14:40 
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Btw MAD MAT, your PDF table appears to have wrong numbers for tank companies.

That's not "mine" actually, but what is the error?

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PostPosted: Thu 9 Aug 2012 14:47 
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[EUG]MadMat wrote:
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Btw MAD MAT, your PDF table appears to have wrong numbers for tank companies.

That's not "mine" actually, but what is the error?

Company size is wrong. Soviet tank company was 10 or 13 tanks, including company commander, hence normal battalions were either 31 tank or 40 tanks.

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