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PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2012 22:19 
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Is it a 4v4?

Cause I would like to participate.

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I find it hard to believe that a land attack by the US into Europe would begin In Poland, that's alot of unfriendly water and ground to pass before even hitting polish land. They'd be surrounded aswell.

Good idea, but the plot holes break immersion for anyone interested in that kind of thing.

but to not break this swiss cheese of a scenario I'll be in charge of scandinavian forces and let all the US ships sail past the peninsula and to polish shores uncontested.

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Oliver wrote:
Just for clarification: EU people can mix their deck of any EU nations. You don't necessarily have to run a nation specific deck. So you can use any UK, FR and BRD units mixed together as you like (of course you can still run something nation specific if you want to).

That seems a bit unfair to me, while US has units to do almost everything in game, they're inferior in most regards to more specialised units of other nations. A player who has access to all the specialised units of the other nato countries will be at a distinct advantage of a player picking only from US units. I recon the playing field would be much more leveled if the eu players has access to the more specialised units but is compensated by the relative lack of coordination.

I don't know, maybe the only non-british player bungles with the rolands and the entire team is destroyed by apaches and kiowa warriors.

As far as improbable lore goes, how about another peninsular war in spain? possibly some succession war after Franco with both US and Euro interests.

My favorite scenario for a modern EU- US war is a massive flood that destroys most of netherlands causing Europe to become ecofacist, creating tensions with the rest of the indifferent world.

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Or maybe Brits could be in the US side since they tend to side with them most of the time recently :D

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PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2012 22:54 
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I think the EU countries only have an advantage when infantry is concerned. And maybe the 3rd gen tanks, but that is a personal opinion.

The one big disadvantage the EU would have is the lack of Flamethrower tanks. Yes, you have the French flamethrower infantry, but those don't have the necessary range.

Everything else is pretty much balanced.

PS: Oh and EU doesn't have any all purpose helos, while the US have the Apache, the Hog Series, the Cobras.

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Errr are we still in the Cold War ? cause ... what ?

How can the american attack Poland ? Did they magically fly over the rest of Europe ?
Why does the American have the bad role ?

Oh and I would enlist to the American army so that I can spread free- err, I mean Christianity to those damn non-believer commie-nazi.

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I'm in, preferably EU please :).

(BTW, what happened to WoN?)

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Alicuza wrote:
Is it a 4v4?

Cause I would like to participate.


Yes, it is planned to be a 4v4.

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I find it hard to believe that a land attack by the US into Europe would begin In Poland, that's alot of unfriendly water and ground to pass before even hitting polish land. They'd be surrounded aswell.


As an attack from the Atlantic ocean is unlikely and hard to realise in WEE due to the lack of marine forces, I had to decide if the US would rather attack Greece or Poland, which are the EU countries which could be invaded by the US from their bases in the Middle East. The problem with Greece: No maps fitting the landscape there.

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That seems a bit unfair to me, while US has units to do almost everything in game, they're inferior in most regards to more specialised units of other nations. A player who has access to all the specialised units of the other nato countries will be at a distinct advantage of a player picking only from US units. I recon the playing field would be much more leveled if the eu players has access to the more specialised units but is compensated by the relative lack of coordination.


I though quite long about it and I'm still not sure if it was the right decision. But I think so.
Logistics: Balanced
Tanks: Advantage for the EU in the high-end sector as the Leo2A4 is slightly better than the M1A1. However, the Patton series of the US is way superior to every EU medium tank.
Recon: Balanced with a slight advantage for the EU. Air recon is pretty balanced (Gazelle/Kiowa), but the EU have better armed land recons. Don't forget about the MUTT though. The EU doesn't have any cheap recon.
Inf: Balanced I think. Keep in mind that the US have got Delta Force and Stingers. The EU doesn't get any competent AA inf (leave the Blowpipes aside...)
AA: Balanced. The US got the Chaparrals and the Vulcans, EU got the Rolands and the Gepards. Seems balanced to me.
Arty: The US have MLRS, giving them a slight advantage.
Vehicles: The US got a flamethrower vehicle and cheaper/better ATGMs. The EU got the Marder chassis. Seems balanced as well.
Helos: Way superior US stuff. The EU only got some freakin' ineffective ATGM helos, while the US can buy Cobras, Apaches, Hogs and so on.

So yeah, I think it's pretty balanced.


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Errr are we still in the Cold War ? cause ... what ?


No, an EU vs US scenario in the cold war would be impossible for some very obvious reasons. The scenario is based on modern world maps ;) The EU described in the Scenario was always meant to be the 27-States EU.

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Why does the American have the bad role ?


I'm sorry for that, but someone has to be the aggressor. And I wouldn't say it's all that bad...

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Oh and I would enlist to the American army so that I can spread free- err, I mean Christianity to those damn non-believer commie-nazi.


You're welcome :lol:

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