While the extended gunrange is nice to have, it doesnt have the impact as people hoped it will have, because the AT duty is almost exclusively carried out by ATGMs now. I would have liked to see it added before ATGMs where touched. Right now its not really noticeable.

Forgot the M60 A1 Patton which is absolutely terrible. But arange buff wouldn't make any sense here. Maybe it should be just cheaper.

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Affordable tanks that already have a usable ATGM. T-55 line generally is for people looking for cheap, spammable tank-like vehicles, not prestigious and highly capable MBTs.



They are 15 points cheaper than the next variant higher up, wouldn't fit in I think.



It would, but current pricing reflects current gun ranges nicely. Otherwise you get little value for your money as you go up the tree. You could give a range boost to mk5, increase its cost and decrease that of mk10. Just compare current mk10 to the also 75pt T-64B: similar stats, +higher speed +atgm with T-64B.

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Yet the Valorise has the range buff in addition to costing 55 points. Now, the Chieftain Mk.5 costs exactly the same yet is inferior in terms of range, doesn't make any sense to me to be honest.

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I'm surprised the Valorize got the range buff since it's already so good for it's price, it makes every other 40-50 point NATO tank seem kinda crappy in comparison so some shakups are needed here. Give the Chieftain Mk5, the RISE Patton and the Leopard 1A3 the extended range and we'll start seeing some serious competition.

Every tank in the T55 line is already good for it's price, it's a perfectly good tank line as it stands. The T62's on the other hand are rather unnattractive.

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well the valorize is good medium with nice accu but it's ap and armor is crappy so you can use it against other meds or lights vehicles but against hvy tanks you should hide it, i prefer the m60a3patton, i use it instead valorise. the rise patton is also a good tank but for its price it should stay as it is.

the t55 as you mention is already good for it's price, but i don't think t62 line is unnattractive, by 70points you have the t62mi i think, which has very good ATGMs and a good main gun, i think better than m60a3 for nearly similar price, also for defensive possitions t62 obr 1975 is not a bad tank, in my pact deck i only have 3 diferent kind of tanks, T-62 line, T-64 line and T-80 line nothing more, and i have the whole variety of prices, armor, power, range, etc. you would think, what about T-72 line? t-64a is better for me than t-72 and t-72a and with t-62-m-i, i have the same gun accu, better ATGM and cheaper than t-72b, but less armor. any way by the T72b 120points i can purchase by 30 less points, t64bm or t-80b by 5 points more even by 95 points the T-62mv have better gun and missiles and only 1 less front armor. for me, is the T-72 line which is unnattractive, only T-72 lovers will purchase it. T-55 and T34 are the cheapest but by 5 more i have the t-62 wich has nearly same features and more armor and now with T34 nerf i don't use them any more, if i want something really cheap which fire shells against infantry i use by 10pts the uaz-469-spg9, and this is why i dont think t34 should cost 10

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The Valorise has bad armor and no stab.

Giving extra range to the valorise was a mistake like I said at patch time. For the other tanks, at least RISE has no need for the extended range, seems just fine for its price and capacity.

I think we have quite nice tiering for tanks now:

Heavy tanks 100-160pts 2275m gun range
High-tier mediums 50-100pts 2100m (though I feel funny calling anything 50 pts "high-tier")
Regular/cheap mediums 15-50pts 1925m

If you start handing the 2100m gun range downwards you'll mud the waters - the regular mediums become a less distinct category and high-tier mediums lose some of their special prestige.

Cavalry tanks like the valorise follow a bit different patterns, but still should be balanced against the other tanks.

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That the Valorize is not paying for those two things is precisely why it's so cost-efficient compared to other medium tanks.

I agree with Varis that the Valorize should probably have been left out of the range buff.

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In my opinion, the only tank that really needs the boost right now is the Chieftain Mk. 5.

It's a defensive tank that costs 55 points, the fact that it doesn't have the extra range right now makes it eye-wateringly uneconomical and utterly pointless.